Southwinds 2

    4210 Southwinds Pl, White Plains, MD, 20695
    4.1 · 20 reviews
    • Independent living
    AnonymousCurrent/former resident
    4.0

    Safe, clean community with tradeoffs

    I moved in and overall I'm pleased: gated, secure community with pristine, well-kept grounds, spacious apartments and tons of amenities (bistro, theater, pool, gym) plus nonstop activities and friendly, responsive staff and management. It's very accessible for walkers/wheelchairs, maintenance is on time, and neighbors are welcoming. My main complaints are high rent (and increases), misleading "Active Adult" advertising when parts feel nursing-home like and there's no on-site medical care, plus parking headaches and some office/deposit/cleaning disputes. If you value safety, cleanliness, activities and helpful staff and can absorb the higher fees, I'd recommend-just check parking, policies and medical needs first.

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    4.10 · 20 reviews

    Overall rating

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    • Care

      5.0
    • Staff

      4.7
    • Meals

      4.1
    • Amenities

      4.2
    • Value

      2.6

    Pros

    • Immaculate cleanliness and well-maintained buildings
    • Friendly, welcoming residents and family-like atmosphere
    • Numerous social activities and resident-hosted events
    • Professional, accommodating, and knowledgeable staff
    • Responsive, on-time maintenance and top-notch maintenance team
    • Extensive amenities (lobby, library, bistro, pool, theater, gym)
    • Regular Bistro events, Happy Hour, Coffee Chat, and Friday social hour
    • Accessible design for walkers and wheelchairs; safety features in apartments
    • Spacious and well-sized apartments with balconies and attractive décor
    • Good value for money cited by many reviewers
    • Secure complex with gated entry and controlled access
    • Exercise facilities including pool, sauna, ping pong, pool table, and gym
    • Inviting shared spaces and pristine common areas
    • Positive tour experiences and helpful move-in support
    • Resident storage area and thoughtful building layout (parking on same floor, benches)
    • Wide variety of activities: movies, dances, cards, exercise classes
    • Supportive atmosphere that 'feels like home' to many residents
    • Helpful office staff and accessible management for most reviewers
    • Immediate occupancy and reasonably priced units for some
    • High quality of care for needs that are within facility scope

    Cons

    • Repeated rent increases, including pandemic-era raises
    • Allegations of price gouging and owner-related dissatisfaction (SABA mentioned)
    • Partial security deposit refunds and disputed cleaning charges
    • Disputed cleaning line-items (windows, blinds, bathrooms, ceiling fans, floors, baseboards, refrigerator, stove, microwave, counters)
    • Apartment units re-listed at higher rent after move-out
    • Pet rent charged after move-in
    • Parking shortages and high demand versus available spaces
    • Inadequate signage for resident parking and unregulated parking enforcement
    • Handicap spaces misused by commercial vehicles or non-residents
    • Visitors frequently occupying resident parking spaces
    • Security concerns: reported vehicle break-ins in parking lots
    • Removal or reduction of amenities while rents increased
    • Perception that building resembles a nursing home; many residents with walkers/wheelchairs/dementia
    • Advertised as Active Adult/alternative to Assisted Living but presence of higher-care residents causes confusion
    • No on-site medical or assisted living services despite resident needs
    • Contradictory resident age/occupant policies reported
    • At least one report of unprofessional/unaccommodating office staff member
    • Some reviewers felt management was unprepared during tours or interactions
    • Medical needs of prospective residents could make recommendation conditional
    • Mixed impressions of value — some praise affordability while others feel rent is too high

    Summary review

    Overall sentiment across the reviews for Southwinds 2 is mixed but leans positive regarding daily living experience and physical facility quality, with significant concerns concentrated on management practices, fees, parking, and security. Many reviewers consistently praise the cleanliness, décor, and upkeep of the community. Common positive themes include immaculate common areas, well-maintained apartments, balconies and adequate apartment sizes, and a very pleasant lobby and bistro area. The grounds and buildings are frequently described as pristine and inviting, with thoughtful design features such as benches in the parking lot, shelving outside doors for personal decor, and parking on the same floor as many apartments. Several reviewers explicitly call the community "beautiful," well-kept, and a place that "feels like home." Maintenance responsiveness is highlighted repeatedly: on-time maintenance, competent staff, and a top-notch maintenance team are cited as strengths.

    Staff and resident life receive consistent praise. Across many reviews staff are described as professional, knowledgeable, accommodating, and accessible. Office teams and managers are often named competent and helpful, and tours are frequently reported as pleasant and informative. The resident community itself is highlighted as friendly and welcoming, with a family-like atmosphere. Social programming is robust: reviewers mention numerous activities (movies with popcorn, dances, cards, exercise classes, Coffee Chat, Happy Hour, Friday social hour), resident-hosted events, and a wide array of amenities that support social engagement (bistro events, theater room, pool, gym, ping pong, pool table, sauna). For many residents this activity mix, combined with supportive neighbors and staff, creates a highly positive living environment and makes the community feel active and socially engaging.

    However, several recurring and significant complaints center on management, pricing, and security. Multiple reviews report rent increases — some characterized as pandemic-era increases or price gouging — and at least one account of units being re-listed at higher rents after move-out. Disputes over fees are prominent: reviewers describe partial security deposit refunds and contested cleaning charges listing specific items (windows, blinds, bathrooms, ceiling fans, floors, baseboards, refrigerator, stove, microwave, kitchen counters). There are also reports of pet rent being imposed after move-in. Some residents express strong dissatisfaction with ownership or management practices (SABA named unfavorably in at least one summary). A subset of reviewers note amenities being removed or reduced while rents rose, which contributes to perceptions of declining value for money among some residents.

    Parking and security are additional areas of concern. Multiple reviewers describe a parking "nightmare," with demand exceeding available spaces, inadequate signage for resident parking, visitors and commercial vehicles occupying resident or handicapped spaces, and instances where disabled spaces were misused. There are reports of vehicle break-ins in the parking area, raising safety concerns even though the complex has gated security and controlled entry. While the gate and secure access are mentioned positively by many, these parking and security issues undermine that sense of safety for several residents.

    Another important pattern is the mismatch between the community's advertised positioning and the observed resident needs. Some reviewers say Southwinds 2 is presented as an "Active Adult" alternative to assisted living, yet they observed many residents using walkers, wheelchairs, or living with dementia/Alzheimer's. This has led to concern that the community houses a population requiring higher levels of care without offering on-site medical or assisted living services. For prospective residents with significant medical needs, reviewers caution that lack of on-site medical services and the apparent presence of residents needing more intensive care could be problematic. A few reviewers explicitly say the community can feel nursing-home-like because of the resident mix, which is an important consideration for those seeking strictly independent, active-adult living.

    In summary, Southwinds 2 is frequently praised for its cleanliness, maintenance, abundant amenities, lively programming, and caring staff — all elements that create a supportive, home-like community for many residents. At the same time, consistent complaints about rent increases, disputed fees, parking management, vehicle security, and inconsistencies between advertised service level and resident care needs are significant and recurring. Prospective residents should weigh the strong community life, facilities, and staff responsiveness against the financial and operational concerns described. Those considering a move should ask direct questions about rent escalation policies, fee/cleaning charge processes, parking availability and enforcement, security measures, and the community's approach to residents with higher care needs to determine if Southwinds 2 matches their expectations and medical requirements.

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    About Southwinds 2

    Southwinds 2 sits at 4210 Southwinds Place in White Plains, Maryland, with another location for community activities at 4250 Southwinds Place, and the place is aimed at people age 55 and up who want active adult living in a secure, upscale apartment community, and if you're looking for places that offer traditional apartment features, Southwinds 2 gives you apartments with one, two, or sometimes even three bedrooms, ranging from about 600 to 1,289 square feet, with walk-in showers that have built-in seats, most apartments having ceiling fans, walk-in closets, washer and dryer, and full kitchens, so you get both comfort and independence, and those who use wheelchairs can get around easily since the buildings are accessible and have elevators and showers that are made for safety.

    The place has controlled building access, video cameras for security, and emergency response systems in each apartment, and the gated entrance with video surveillance gives a sense of safety that a lot of folks really want, and when you think about parking, every resident gets an assigned spot, which makes coming and going easier, and those who smoke should know the indoor spaces are smoke-free, so there's no smoking allowed anywhere inside.

    There's both indoor and outdoor shared spaces, like a theater room, bistro that serves coffee, a library, a beauty salon for grooming, and outdoor picnic areas with gas grills for gatherings, and you can find a sauna, spa, swimming pool, steam room, and fitness center, along with a massage area, so people can stay as active or relaxed as they wish, and the community organizes activities including weekly happy hours, dance lessons, game nights, coffee chats, bingo, chair yoga, stretching classes, and aerobics, so there's usually something going on for residents to join.

    If anyone wants more than independent living, there are some services available like maintenance-free options, janitorial staff, and referral sources for home care or assisted living, and trained aides can come to help with personal care and daily activities, and if memory concerns are present, there are memory care features to help prevent wandering and confusion, plus secured neighborhood homes for people who might need to live with a caregiver.

    Southwinds Active Adult Community accepts pets, so you'll see folks with animals around, though some details about specific pet or service terms weren't listed, and it's got elevators, controlled entry, beautiful landscaping, and the whole place is kept up by full-time janitorial and 24-hour maintenance teams, so things usually get fixed quickly, and nearby shopping, freeways, and a storage unit offering discounted rates to residents make daily life a bit more simple, so people can keep living how they want while having options if they ever need more support, and everything is managed by The Saba Group, Inc.

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